Discussion:
[Freetel-codec2] codec2-dev/stm32 make
Steve
2016-05-21 14:28:05 UTC
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Problem: No Worky

Solution: Edit Makefile

At Line 35 delete the '/' on the end which results in a double slash
At Line 37 change the version number.

The resulting Lines 35 to 37 should look like:

PERIPHLIBURL =
http://www.st.com/st-web-ui/static/active/en/st_prod_software_internet/resource/technical/software/firmware
PERIPHLIBZIP = stm32f4_dsp_stdperiph_lib.zip
PERIPHLIBVER = V1.7.0

This then allows the Make to complete without error.

FYI

Steve
glen english
2016-05-22 22:25:32 UTC
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Anyone using the STM32F7 (like I am on my new codec2 board) be sure to
read the chip errata and migration sheet.

there are some bugs with the silicon that affect triggering of the ADCs
from the timers (essential) .

There are reasonable workarounds. You'll save yourself a day by reading
the errata first...
The silicon errata/bugs are non trivial, also....

In addition, the ADC trigger TRGO defines are different.. ensure you
read the migration sheet.

The M4 startup code may not work for M7 despite it being "binary
compatible", there are NOPs inserted between cpu controls and you need
more NOPs between setting a function and using it. (deeper longer
pipelines).

apart from that, the M7 beats the pants off the M4 for identical code !

glen VK1XX
David Rowe
2016-05-22 23:07:56 UTC
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Thanks for the heads up Glen - gd to see we have an upgrade path. Will
you be shoing yr new board off at Gippstech? I hope to have the SM2000
doing something" by then.

- David
Post by glen english
Anyone using the STM32F7 (like I am on my new codec2 board) be sure to
read the chip errata and migration sheet.
there are some bugs with the silicon that affect triggering of the ADCs
from the timers (essential) .
There are reasonable workarounds. You'll save yourself a day by reading
the errata first...
The silicon errata/bugs are non trivial, also....
In addition, the ADC trigger TRGO defines are different.. ensure you
read the migration sheet.
The M4 startup code may not work for M7 despite it being "binary
compatible", there are NOPs inserted between cpu controls and you need
more NOPs between setting a function and using it. (deeper longer
pipelines).
apart from that, the M7 beats the pants off the M4 for identical code !
glen VK1XX
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glen english
2016-05-22 23:24:43 UTC
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mmm maybe I'll show it......yes maybe. got to get other work out of the
way Hopefully I will have my pick and place machine online by then.....

F7 is also much more complex in the memory department if you want to get
the best out of it.
many different paths between the memories and the processor. many
different memories on board...

You can run it in 'basic mode' and still get reasonable improvement for
"general purpose code' in performance over F4. Dual issue micro and deep
pipeline seems to reap benefits, and power consumption very reasonable.

But... !

I would only recommend the upgrade if have your wits about you.... It's
also a fair extra $.


If you are not already using the CMSIS optimised DSP libraries, then you
might get 2:1 on your existing DSP code, also without going to M7 just
by using the optimized libs.

cheers
Post by David Rowe
Thanks for the heads up Glen - gd to see we have an upgrade path. Will
you be shoing yr new board off at Gippstech? I hope to have the SM2000
doing something" by then.
- David
Post by glen english
Anyone using the STM32F7 (like I am on my new codec2 board) be sure to
read the chip errata and migration sheet.
there are some bugs with the silicon that affect triggering of the ADCs
from the timers (essential) .
There are reasonable workarounds. You'll save yourself a day by reading
the errata first...
The silicon errata/bugs are non trivial, also....
In addition, the ADC trigger TRGO defines are different.. ensure you
read the migration sheet.
The M4 startup code may not work for M7 despite it being "binary
compatible", there are NOPs inserted between cpu controls and you need
more NOPs between setting a function and using it. (deeper longer
pipelines).
apart from that, the M7 beats the pants off the M4 for identical code !
glen VK1XX
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Alan Beard
2016-05-25 07:12:23 UTC
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Thanks for the info.
I'm about to use the Arduino DUE (M4) for mmdvm.
The CMSIS library is used for MMDVM.

Could we add the Codec2 code?

(well we have P25, D-Star, Fusion, DMR, why not add another)

Alan VK2ZIW
Post by glen english
mmm maybe I'll show it......yes maybe. got to get other work out of
the way Hopefully I will have my pick and place machine online by then.....
F7 is also much more complex in the memory department if you want to
get the best out of it. many different paths between the memories
and the processor. many different memories on board...
You can run it in 'basic mode' and still get reasonable improvement
for "general purpose code' in performance over F4. Dual issue micro
and deep pipeline seems to reap benefits, and power consumption very
reasonable.
But... !
I would only recommend the upgrade if have your wits about you....
It's also a fair extra $.
If you are not already using the CMSIS optimised DSP libraries, then
you might get 2:1 on your existing DSP code, also without going to
M7 just by using the optimized libs.
cheers
Post by David Rowe
Thanks for the heads up Glen - gd to see we have an upgrade path. Will
you be shoing yr new board off at Gippstech? I hope to have the SM2000
doing something" by then.
- David
Post by glen english
Anyone using the STM32F7 (like I am on my new codec2 board) be sure to
read the chip errata and migration sheet.
there are some bugs with the silicon that affect triggering of the ADCs
from the timers (essential) .
There are reasonable workarounds. You'll save yourself a day by reading
the errata first...
The silicon errata/bugs are non trivial, also....
In addition, the ADC trigger TRGO defines are different.. ensure you
read the migration sheet.
The M4 startup code may not work for M7 despite it being "binary
compatible", there are NOPs inserted between cpu controls and you need
more NOPs between setting a function and using it. (deeper longer
pipelines).
apart from that, the M7 beats the pants off the M4 for identical code !
glen VK1XX
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glen english
2016-05-25 07:43:37 UTC
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Hi Alan
someone else will have to answer that- I am not familiar with MMDVM, and
I know nothing about Arduino..

73
Post by Alan Beard
Thanks for the info.
I'm about to use the Arduino DUE (M4) for mmdvm.
The CMSIS library is used for MMDVM.
Could we add the Codec2 code?
(well we have P25, D-Star, Fusion, DMR, why not add another)
Alan VK2ZIW
Post by glen english
mmm maybe I'll show it......yes maybe. got to get other work out of
the way Hopefully I will have my pick and place machine online by then.....
F7 is also much more complex in the memory department if you want to
get the best out of it. many different paths between the memories
and the processor. many different memories on board...
You can run it in 'basic mode' and still get reasonable improvement
for "general purpose code' in performance over F4. Dual issue micro
and deep pipeline seems to reap benefits, and power consumption very
reasonable.
But... !
I would only recommend the upgrade if have your wits about you....
It's also a fair extra $.
If you are not already using the CMSIS optimised DSP libraries, then
you might get 2:1 on your existing DSP code, also without going to
M7 just by using the optimized libs.
cheers
Post by David Rowe
Thanks for the heads up Glen - gd to see we have an upgrade path. Will
you be shoing yr new board off at Gippstech? I hope to have the SM2000
doing something" by then.
- David
Post by glen english
Anyone using the STM32F7 (like I am on my new codec2 board) be sure to
read the chip errata and migration sheet.
there are some bugs with the silicon that affect triggering of the ADCs
from the timers (essential) .
There are reasonable workarounds. You'll save yourself a day by reading
the errata first...
The silicon errata/bugs are non trivial, also....
In addition, the ADC trigger TRGO defines are different.. ensure you
read the migration sheet.
The M4 startup code may not work for M7 despite it being "binary
compatible", there are NOPs inserted between cpu controls and you need
more NOPs between setting a function and using it. (deeper longer
pipelines).
apart from that, the M7 beats the pants off the M4 for identical code !
glen VK1XX
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Post by David Rowe
Post by glen english
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Jeroen Vreeken
2016-05-25 08:11:47 UTC
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Post by Alan Beard
Thanks for the info.
I'm about to use the Arduino DUE (M4) for mmdvm.
The CMSIS library is used for MMDVM.
Could we add the Codec2 code?
You will probably run into problems since the DUE cpu has no floating
point. (And if it did, the 84MHz clock would probably be challenging)
Post by Alan Beard
(well we have P25, D-Star, Fusion, DMR, why not add another)
I am assuming you use an external codec for those?

73,
Jeroen PE1RXQ
Shane Burrell
2016-05-25 10:45:44 UTC
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The DUE likely doesn't have the horsepower. I've seen the MMDVM mentioned
in passing but going to the website the code doesn't seem to be availible
or licensing.
Post by Alan Beard
Thanks for the info.
I'm about to use the Arduino DUE (M4) for mmdvm.
The CMSIS library is used for MMDVM.
Could we add the Codec2 code?
(well we have P25, D-Star, Fusion, DMR, why not add another)
Alan VK2ZIW
Post by glen english
mmm maybe I'll show it......yes maybe. got to get other work out of
the way Hopefully I will have my pick and place machine online by
then.....
Post by glen english
F7 is also much more complex in the memory department if you want to
get the best out of it. many different paths between the memories
and the processor. many different memories on board...
You can run it in 'basic mode' and still get reasonable improvement
for "general purpose code' in performance over F4. Dual issue micro
and deep pipeline seems to reap benefits, and power consumption very
reasonable.
But... !
I would only recommend the upgrade if have your wits about you....
It's also a fair extra $.
If you are not already using the CMSIS optimised DSP libraries, then
you might get 2:1 on your existing DSP code, also without going to
M7 just by using the optimized libs.
cheers
Post by David Rowe
Thanks for the heads up Glen - gd to see we have an upgrade path. Will
you be shoing yr new board off at Gippstech? I hope to have the SM2000
doing something" by then.
- David
Post by glen english
Anyone using the STM32F7 (like I am on my new codec2 board) be sure to
read the chip errata and migration sheet.
there are some bugs with the silicon that affect triggering of the
ADCs
Post by glen english
Post by David Rowe
Post by glen english
from the timers (essential) .
There are reasonable workarounds. You'll save yourself a day by
reading
Post by glen english
Post by David Rowe
Post by glen english
the errata first...
The silicon errata/bugs are non trivial, also....
In addition, the ADC trigger TRGO defines are different.. ensure you
read the migration sheet.
The M4 startup code may not work for M7 despite it being "binary
compatible", there are NOPs inserted between cpu controls and you need
more NOPs between setting a function and using it. (deeper longer
pipelines).
apart from that, the M7 beats the pants off the M4 for identical code
!
Post by glen english
Post by David Rowe
Post by glen english
glen VK1XX
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Post by glen english
Post by David Rowe
Post by glen english
Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who
bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of
MDM
Post by glen english
Post by David Rowe
Post by glen english
restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only
the
Post by glen english
Post by David Rowe
Post by glen english
apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data
untouched!
Post by glen english
Post by David Rowe
Post by glen english
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Alan Beard
2016-06-01 12:16:39 UTC
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Don't we have two DSP areas here:

1) Speech analysis ending up with a digital "representation" of the voice and, later regenerating the "voice".

2) Modulation and Demodulation of digital-audio to/from the radio.

========

In the MMDVM and MMDVMHost project, we have two "computers", the DUE and the Raspberry Pi.

Q/   Do we need Floating Point in #2 DSP area, as above ?

I'm very happy with using two "computers" as in the DUE and a Pi clone.
(For me, the Banana Pi with a SATA disk wins hands down. Now 120G SSD.)

Alan VK2ZIW
So I looked up what a "Arduino DUE" is
DUE is a cortex M3 based unit. no floating point unit, butreasonably capable of floating point library but not int he volumerequired but I'd have to say, unlikely to work without a TON ofwork.
CortexM3 is OK for (work already done) fixed point reference designcodecs, but not this one.
you'd be highly recommended to get codec2 running on the STMF4discovery $15 or STMF7 $80 discovery board.
(unless you want a project for the summer- fixed point port ofcodec2.....)
there seems to be a bit of arduino STM32 F4 activity in thestm32duino forum
http://www.stm32duino.com/viewforum.php?f=39
good luck
cheers
Glen English VK1XX
The DUE likely doesn't have the horsepower.  I'veseen the MMDVM mentioned in passing but going to the website thecode doesn't seem to be availible or licensing.  
Thanks forthe info.
 I'm about to use the Arduino DUE (M4) for mmdvm.
 The CMSIS library is used for MMDVM.
 Could we add the Codec2 code?
 (well we have P25, D-Star, Fusion, DMR, why not addanother)
Alan VK2ZIW
mmm maybe I'll show it......yes maybe. got to get otherwork out of
the way Hopefully I will have my pick and place machineonline by then.....
F7 is also much more complex in the memory departmentif you want to
get the best out of it. many different paths betweenthe memories
and the processor. many different memories on board...
You can run it in 'basic mode' and still get reasonableimprovement
for "general purpose code' in performance over F4. Dualissue micro
and deep pipeline seems to reap benefits, and powerconsumption very
reasonable.
But... !
I would only recommend the upgrade if have your witsabout you....
It's also a fair extra $.
If you are not already using the CMSIS optimised DSPlibraries, then
you might get 2:1 on your existing DSP code, alsowithout going to
M7 just by using the optimized libs.
cheers
Thanks for the heads up Glen - gd to see we havean upgrade path.  Will
you be shoing yr new board off at Gippstech?  Ihope to have the SM2000
doing something" by then.
- David
Anyone using the STM32F7 (like I am on my newcodec2 board) be sure to
read the chip errata and migration sheet.
there are some bugs with the silicon thataffect triggering of the ADCs
from the timers (essential) .
There are reasonable workarounds. You'll saveyourself a day by reading
the errata first...
The silicon errata/bugs are non trivial,also....
In addition, the ADC trigger TRGO defines aredifferent.. ensure you
read the migration sheet.
The M4  startup code may not work for M7despite it being "binary
compatible", there are NOPs inserted betweencpu controls and you need
more NOPs between setting a function and usingit. (deeper longer
pipelines).
apart from that, the M7 beats the pants offthe M4 for identical code !
glen VK1XX
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